A Message to the Skeleton Clique (The Twenty One Pilots Fandom)

((After this post, I’m going to be redoing some old rants I felt were… Too harsh, I took an awful approach on.))

Skeleton Clique? We need to talk.

The hashtag “TylerJosephComingOutParty” trended on Twitter, on August 5th, 2016, I believe. Your shipping has gone way out of hand. You’ve sent death threats to Tyler Joseph’s wife, Jenna, because you ship Joshler.

You’ve sent death threats to Josh, just because he didn’t offer Tyler to stay with him in California.

You’ve groped Josh when he fell off stage.

A majority of you send mindless hate toward Jenna and Josh.


It’s awful. It’s made me ashamed to be a part of the Skeleton Clique.


And the way you treat new fans is awful, as well.

When the only song someone knows is Stressed Out, they’re labeled as a “fake fan” and get rude treatment. I’ve had that happen to me. No one, except for one person, an irl friend of mine, offered to show me new songs and give me recommendations. One person. Shouldn’t we be doing that to everyone? They hate all the songs getting popular, such as Stressed Out, Ride, and Tear In My Heart (which are all good songs), and I fear for Heathens, being in a movie soundtrack, and being played on the radio more and more.


Why is the Skeleton Clique like this, when other bandoms are perfectly fine? The bad parts of the Skeleton Clique are very similar to the Phandom (The Danisnotonfire and AmazingPhil fandom), and I can’t understand why.


Anyways, Dear Skeleton Clique

Try to be nicer to Jenna and Josh. Try to be nicer to newer fans. And, most of all, try to be nice if Josh ever gets/has/already has a new girlfriend, or even boyfriend, I don’t know. Don’t try and push sexualities on the boys, either, like with TylerJosephComingOutParty.


Stay alive, frens, and take my advice |-/


So long and goodnight

-Oliver Jones


Stressed Out: Evil to the Core or Perfectly Fine?

I’m not saying the song is evil. If you don’t know it is a reference to the song Fairly Local by Twenty One Pilots, who also did the song Stressed Out, which I am discussing today.

Stressed Out. A title that makes radio fans recognize the band, and fans of the band cringe. People scream, “If you like Stressed Out only, you aren’t a real fan!” and “The songs are becoming popular on the radio so now they’re going to become bad!” But is Stressed Out truly an evil of the Clique that needs to be destroyed?


No. It’s not. And people need to stop saying it is. Just because Stressed Out is the only song someone knows by the band DOES NOT mean you can start attacking them. I’ve seen it both on the Internet and in real life with some kids in my classes. It almost made me not want to get into Twenty One Pilots (which eventually I did, and I’m glad for that).

Now, if they say they’re a huge fan of the band and only know Stressed Out, you might think that’s not okay. Don’t attack them, please. Encourage them to check out more of their work. Say something like, “Hey, I think their self-titled/Vessel/Regional At Best album is great. You should check it out.” And if they do, that’s great! You’ve introduced new fans to the Clique, and you should be happy!


I personally think Tear In My Heart, Stressed Out, and Ride (that one is becoming popular on the radio and people are flipping their shit) are good songs. I identify a lot with some of the moments in Stressed Out. What I don’t like is being called a fake fan, and being told, “Name 5 of their songs besides those not from Blurryface or Vessel.” It makes me feel like they think I’m not a true fan, which I feel I am.

Being a true fan is not being there from the beginning. It’s the willingness to listen to all their music, and to be there until the end, and possibly even beyond that. To always feel the music in your heart and be happy.

Being a true fan is not bashing other people and being a total bitch about it. We clear? Alright.


So long and goodnight |-/

-Oliver Jones

My Thoughts On Once Upon a Time: The Plot Twist I’m Pretty Sure No One Wanted

This will contain major spoilers for season 5 of Once Upon a Time, most specifically, Episode 21, “Last Rites”.
Now, before I begin, I will give a recap of the episode so everyone is up to speed. Again, major spoilers for a plot twist, and the entire episode, as well as some bits from earlier in the season and probably the series. I am using the recap from
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/08/once-upon-a-time-season-5-episode-21-recap-with-spoilers-last-ri/ with a few of my own modifications.

“The episode begins in present day Storybrooke, where Hades (Greg Germann), Zelena (Rebecca Mader), and her baby are celebrating his beating heart (acquired the last episode with True Love’s Kiss and breaking the curse on him). Zelena trusts Hades so much that she even gives him the baby, while she looks for her sister, Regina (unknowing that Hades tried to trap her, Robin, Emma, Henry, and David in the Underworld, after attempts to rescue Killian were unsuccessful). Then, King Arthur (Liam Garrigan) appears, having just escaped. Hades, even though he found a lot in common with Arthur (Imprisoned, but meant to rule a kingdom), kills him anyways. Meanwhile, Snow (Ginnifer Goodwin) organizes a search party to find Arthur, consisting of Merida (Amy Manson) and the dwarves, and then she reunites with David (Josh Dallas), Henry (Jared Gilmore), and Emma (Jennifer Morrison). Zelena finds Regina (Lana Parilla) and Robin Hood (Sean Maguire) elsewhere and is disappointed to learn that Hades tricked them, but adds that if they go after him, they will do so at their own peril. Then, down in the Underworld, a distraught, recently killed Arthur finds himself face to face with Hook (Colin O’Donoghue). Arthur has a lot of “unfinished business” to deal with, and it’s going to take a seriously good deed to get him to move on to “the better place.” As such, the unlikely duo of Hook and Arthur decide to go on a quest: to figure out how to defeat Hades. Hook and Arthur look for pages of the Storybook that may contain information on Hades’ weaknesses. Arthur’s past as a king comes in handy when he figures out exactly where Hades would hide such secrets: in his throne. Hook reads over the pages and says that they contain information on “the way to destroy a god.” When Zelena tells Hades that Regina is going after him, he cleverly claims that he would turn himself in for her protection. Of course, Zelena is so touched by the gesture that she insists that he does not. They decide instead to fight back, with two powerful Olympian crystal daggers. As they plan their method of attack, Hades proposes that they can ultimately rule the Underworld together. Then, Hades gets a call from Rumple, who’s offering a deal: Rumple will protect him in exchange for a piece of Olympian crystal. Hades declines. Regina figures that the least they could do is use a secret tunnel to meet with Zelena and maybe get Robin’s baby back. Emma wants to help, but Regina won’t let her- as she’s too emotional. Regina and Robin have a heart-to-heart on their way through the tunnel and decide to give Zelena yet another chance. Elsewhere, Rumplestiltskin (Robert Carlyle) meets with Belle’s father. She can only wake up from True Love’s Kiss after putting herself under a sleeping curse to protect her baby from Hades, after Rumplestiltskin signed the baby away with a contract many years ago to save his son, Baelfire. She needs her father, since Rumple tried it, but it didn’t work (meaning they “un-became” True Love). Her father refuses to help Rumple, and before Rumple can threaten him too much, Emma interrupts, asking Rumple how to kill Hades. A distressed Emma is adamant in destroying Hades and isn’t willing to wait as her family figures out how. Back in the Underworld, Hook and Arthur meet with Cruella De Vil (Victoria Smurfit) and ask her how to speak with people in the mortal realm. She already destroyed the phone booth, so now there is theoretically no way to make contact. Instead, they go after the Storybook that Cruella hid deep underground, near the River of Souls. One of the souls tries to pull Arthur under, and another tries to steal the book. But ultimately, they are able to retrieve it safely. Hook tells Arthur that Hades can only be killed with the Olympian crystal. He hopes that adding the information to the Storybook below will have a mirrored effect on the Storybook up above, so Emma can figure out how to defeat Hades. Sure enough, Emma’s copy of the book flips open right to the page detailing the info. Nearby, Hades is ready to fight, even though Zelena would rather take their Olympian crystal and go, ruling elsewhere. They don’t have much time to discuss, before Emma starts using her magic to get inside. Regina and Robin are also nearby, sneaking around. Zelena realizes that Emma is trying to kill Hades, and while they argue, Robin and Regina grab the baby. Hades is there, ready to stop them. Hades shoots a ray at Regina with the Olympian crystal, and Robin jumps in front to protect her, sacrificing himself, and dying, as the Olympian crystal causes you to cease to be, no afterlife or anything, you’re just gone. Zelena re-enters, and both Hades and Regina try to convince her that the other is lying. While Hades is distracted, Regina knocks the crystal out of his hands, and Zelena picks it up. She now has the chance to kill Regina, but she decides to kill Hades instead- realizing that Regina truly loves her. Again in the Underworld, Hook thanks Arthur for all of his help, and then a portal opens. Hook is finally given his opportunity to move on to a better place, and offers Arthur a chance to go with him. He declines, opting to rule the Underworld instead. Hook steps through and finds himself in some sort of limbo, where he meets Zeus, who tells him that it’s time to finally take him “where he belongs.” Then we see Emma, again in Storybrooke, visiting Hook’s grave, finally able to grieve now that Hades is gone. Next, our remaining heroes attend a touching funeral for Robin, and Zelena decides to name the baby after her father. Emma stays behind to have a private moment at the gravesite- and she is shocked to be joined by Hook, who is alive and back in Storybrooke. Lastly, Rumple retrieves a piece of Olympian crystal from where Hades was killed.

Alright. I’m going to focus on mostly the end, although you need the rest for context.

I ship CaptainSwan (Emma x Hook) as much as about 95 percent of the fandom, but this just pisses me off. Everything good always happens to them, and even when something awful happens to them, they always miraculously manage to recover. Rumbelle (Rumplestilskin x Belle), Snowing (Snow x David/Charming), and OutlawQueen (Robin x Regina), ESPECIALLY OutlawQueen always have everything bad happen to them, and rarely, if ever, completely recover.

I love CaptainSwan, I really do, but this angers me. It feels almost like “fan service”.

For those who don’t know, “Fan service” is mainly used in anime, but has been used in other mediums before, and is when a writer or artist (typically of an anime or manga, but again can be used for other terms) puts something in to please the audience.

It feels like the only reason CaptainSwan is a part of the show, since Season 3 in Neverland, is because the fans went crazy for it and demanded the ship become “canon”. It became canon, and the fans kept with it, and I was one of them. I still ship it, but now not as much.

I feel it’s very disrespectful the way they brought Hook back. Robin had just died, and the whole town is super upset. Regina is heartbroken, because SHE JUST LOST HER TRUE LOVE. AGAIN. She already lost Daniel, and now Robin. And what do the writers do? They have Emma and Hook start making out, practically on Robin’s grave. It’s just very disrespectful not only to the memory of Robin, but to, ESPECIALLY to Regina.

And what do I feel like they’re going to do? Just use this as an excuse to try and turn Regina evil again. I hate this, and I know this is probably what is going to happen. Regina has worked so hard for her second chance, and has changed so much from the beginning, and all that is going to go down the drain.
Anyways, this is all just my opinion, and if you hate on me for just because you’re a rabid shipper, take the words of Patrick Stump to heart, “I don’t care what you think, as long as it’s about me.”

So long and goodnight
-Oliver Jones

Rant #1- Shipping


It’s okay to ship. And it’s okay to ship real life people. Don’t shove it in the face of other people, or the people being shipped, if they are real.

I have a huge problem when people take something like Phan, Peterick, Frerard or Joshler (even if I do ship them) and shove them in their faces.

These people have social lives, and the shipping can make them very uncomfortable. It can cause rifts in friendships. Do you want that? I didn’t think so.

It’s fine to ship it. Don’t shove it in their faces.

So long and goodnight

Review #2- Once Upon a Time S5 EP. 12- Souls of the Departed



Correct me if I misnamed the episode.
I enjoy Greek mythology myself, so I enjoyed the episode a lot. I got emotional at a few points. First, when they showed Neal in the bug with Emma in that dream/vision. As an avid and strong CaptainSwan shipper, I still enjoy the relationship between Emma and Neal. You can tell they loved each other so much, and you can’t deny it. I was hoping for Henry and Gold to be able to see Neal one last time, and to get some closure for them, but that was just me.

I thought the subplot of Regina and her father was very touching, and shows how manipulative, and  downright horrible Cora can be, even with her heart, especially threatening to throw her father into the flames.

Pan made a return, and I was happy. I think he, besides Rumplestiltskin, is one of my favorite villains on the show. I can’t wait to see what else he’ll do this season.

When they showed Hook, all burnt up, and Emma started to lose hope, that also got me. She’s been fighting for him, and to see her almost lose hope, it’s sad. You can tell that even with her other relationships, and the Rocky start, she will fight for Hook, and that is adorable to me.

Regina’s dad getting to “go to a better place” (Heaven) is what made me cry. Her dad is selfless, and was willing to take that flame so his daughter could help her friends, and Regina could become a better person, like with Snow’s heart. He was able to connect with Regina one last time, and forgive her. And Regina got reassurance in a way.

Finally: Hades. Hades looks badass. The blue hair at the end was a nice touch, like in the Disney movie. He’s so cruel and creepy. I almost felt bad for Cora.

Questions I have:
How long are they going to be in the actual Underworld?
How many characters are they going to bring back to Storybrooke from the Underworld on accident?
What twist are they going to give to Hercules and Megara? Will they do something dramatic, like with King Arthur and Guinevere?

My next post is going to be something I’ve had on my mind for a while, so look out for that!

So long and goodnight

My Quick Thoughts (#1)

Today’s subject will be “Harry Potter and the Cursed Child”, a play, and soon to be book by author J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series for the few people that don’t know.

At first I was super excited when they announced the play, as I’ve wanted a new Harry Potter story for a while. (The recent Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them announcement got me excited as well, and I will review it once I see it.)

I was disappointed when I heard that the play would only be available in London, being a silly American.

My happiness increases when I heard that they would be making it into a book, based off the script. I would actually be able to experience it without a trip to London, which I cannot afford!

If I get my hands on the book, I will review it. There is a high likelyhood that I will get it, even if not right away.

~Oliver Talks Fandoms

A brief apology

I made I mistake in my review.
I said I disliked LA Devotee. I meant Impossible Year.
Carry On
My wayward son
There’ll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don’t you cry no more

Review #1- Death of a Bachelor

My first review is going to be on Panic! At the Disco’s newest album, Death of a Bachelor, which was released on January 15th, 2016.

I got the album when it first came out, and I have been listening to it nonstop. I love all their other albums, but personally, I think DoaB is my favorite. The songs have a wide range of differences, from the faster tempo of Victorious to the slower tempo of songs like Death of a Bachelor and House of Memories.

My personal favorite of the songs is Don’t Threaten Me With a Good Time, because it is just very interesting to me. The opening little guitar riff in the beginning reminds me a lot of Rock Lobster by The B-52’s, and overall I have a blast listening to it. If I had to choose a least favorite, which is very hard, I would have to go with, and this might be an unpopular opinion, is LA Devotee. I don’t hate it, but I just don’t love it either…  An honorable mention for favorite is Crazy=Genius, it was a hard pick between that and Don’t Threaten Me With a Good Time, but a decision had to be made.

Overall Rating of the album: 8/10









My name is Oliver, and welcome to Oliver Talks Fandoms!

Here, on my blog, I will do many things! I will give my review on episodes of TV showss (Including Supernatural, Doctor Who, Sherlock, Once Upon a Time and others), movies (Marvel, Star Wars, Disney and more), books, and music (including albums and singles!)

Leave a comment if there is something you want me to review, and I will see if I can, or if you have a fandom related question!

There will obviously be spoilers in some of my posts, so if there is spoilers, I will put “SPOILERS!” At the top of the post.

Keep in mind, I am not an expert. I am not in a band besides the school band, I’m not an actor or director, I am a writer, though not profesionally, and I am not a celebrity with knowledge. I am just a fan that likes to review.